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$e^{ix} = cos x + i \cdot sin x $ ব্যবহার করলে আমরা $i^i$ এর মান বের করতে পারি। এবং মান পাই $i^i=e^{\frac{- \pi}{2}}$
$i$ একটা অবাস্তব সংখ্যা। একটা অবাস্তব সংখ্যার অবাস্তব তম ঘাত কিভাবে বাস্তব হইতে পারে???
$i$ একটা অবাস্তব সংখ্যা। একটা অবাস্তব সংখ্যার অবাস্তব তম ঘাত কিভাবে বাস্তব হইতে পারে???
Re: i^i
হতে যে পারে সেইটা তো তুমি নিজেই প্রমাণ করলা! $e^{i\pi/2}=i \Longrightarrow i^i=e^{\frac{- \pi}{2}}$
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Re: i^i
বুঝলাম না
$e^{i \frac{\pi}{2}}$ কি অবাস্তব না বাস্তব???এইটা নিয়া ও তো এখন সন্দেহ হইতাসে
সবই এখন সন্দেহজনক লাগতেসে। পড়তে যাই, আমার মাথা কেমন ভারি ভারি লাগতেসে।
$e^{i \frac{\pi}{2}}$ কি অবাস্তব না বাস্তব???এইটা নিয়া ও তো এখন সন্দেহ হইতাসে
সবই এখন সন্দেহজনক লাগতেসে। পড়তে যাই, আমার মাথা কেমন ভারি ভারি লাগতেসে।
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বেশি সন্দেহ করার কিছু নাই।
তবে আমারও একটা প্রশ্ন আছে বড়দের প্রতি। $a^b$ এর মানে কী? $b \in \mathbb{Z}$ হইলে আমরা বলতে পারি যে $b$ সংখ্যক $a$ কে গুণ করা। কিন্তু অন্যান্য ক্ষেত্রে formal definition টা কী?
তবে আমারও একটা প্রশ্ন আছে বড়দের প্রতি। $a^b$ এর মানে কী? $b \in \mathbb{Z}$ হইলে আমরা বলতে পারি যে $b$ সংখ্যক $a$ কে গুণ করা। কিন্তু অন্যান্য ক্ষেত্রে formal definition টা কী?
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Re: i^i
$i^i$ বাস্তব হইতে কোনো সমস্যা নাই। এবং বাস্তব যে সেইটাতো তুমি প্রমাণই করলা।
যেকোনো দুইটা জটিল সংখ্যা $a,b$ এর জন্য $a^b = e^{b \mbox{ } log(a)}$ যেইখানে exponential এর সংজ্ঞা দেয়া হইসে power series এর মাধ্যমে এবং logarithm এর সংজ্ঞা দেয়া হইসে exponential এর inverse হিসেবে।
যেকোনো দুইটা জটিল সংখ্যা $a,b$ এর জন্য $a^b = e^{b \mbox{ } log(a)}$ যেইখানে exponential এর সংজ্ঞা দেয়া হইসে power series এর মাধ্যমে এবং logarithm এর সংজ্ঞা দেয়া হইসে exponential এর inverse হিসেবে।
Re: i^i
The definition that I know of $x^a$ is $x^a=e^{a\ln x}=\exp(a\ln x)$, where $\exp$ is defined as
\[\exp(x)=\sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{x^n}{n!}.\]
Note that this definition generalizes to complex powers as well.
However, from your point of view: If $a$ is a positive integer, we regard $x^a$ as $\underbrace{x\cdot x\cdots x}_{a\text{ times}}$. From here it's clear that
\[x^{m+n}=x^m\cdot x^n\qquad (*)\]
for positive integers $m,n$. We can define negative powers from $(*)$, for example $x^{n-1}=x^{-1}\cdot x^n$ so $x^{-1}=1/x$. From $(*)$ we can also see that
\[(x^m)^n=x^{mn}\qquad (**)\]
for integers $m,n$. Now, from $(**)$ we can define $x^{1/m}$ as $y$, which is the solution to $y^m=(x^{1/m})^m=x$. Thus, for rational $a$, i.e. $a=p/q$ we have $x^a=(x^p)^{1/q}$. But this stops here, because we can't define irrational powers in this way.
P.S. Tanvir bhai beat me
\[\exp(x)=\sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{x^n}{n!}.\]
Note that this definition generalizes to complex powers as well.
However, from your point of view: If $a$ is a positive integer, we regard $x^a$ as $\underbrace{x\cdot x\cdots x}_{a\text{ times}}$. From here it's clear that
\[x^{m+n}=x^m\cdot x^n\qquad (*)\]
for positive integers $m,n$. We can define negative powers from $(*)$, for example $x^{n-1}=x^{-1}\cdot x^n$ so $x^{-1}=1/x$. From $(*)$ we can also see that
\[(x^m)^n=x^{mn}\qquad (**)\]
for integers $m,n$. Now, from $(**)$ we can define $x^{1/m}$ as $y$, which is the solution to $y^m=(x^{1/m})^m=x$. Thus, for rational $a$, i.e. $a=p/q$ we have $x^a=(x^p)^{1/q}$. But this stops here, because we can't define irrational powers in this way.
P.S. Tanvir bhai beat me
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
Re: i^i
ধন্যবাদ। ভাল একটা জিনিস শিখলাম।
তানভীর ভাই:
তবে এইখানে একটা পুরানো প্রশ্ন চলে আসছে। সেইটা হল জটিল সংখ্যার লগারিদম কেমন করে define করব? exponential এর inverse power series হিসেবে?
তানভীর ভাই:
তবে এইখানে একটা পুরানো প্রশ্ন চলে আসছে। সেইটা হল জটিল সংখ্যার লগারিদম কেমন করে define করব? exponential এর inverse power series হিসেবে?
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Re: i^i
oups...sorry...I think that we have posted in Bangla in Olympiad forum. BTW I think that this topic is suitable for college forum. It has nothing to with Olympiad problems/NT. moving it.
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Logarithm is defined as the inverse of the exponential function. So, $log(z) = w$ such that $e^w = z$.
But, one needs to be careful since the exponential of complex numbers is not a one-to-one function. It's a many-to-one function and the inverse is not automatically a well defined map. So, we need to make a choice. (This is similar to the inverse trigonometric functions, where we need to choose a principle value)
The usual convention is to note that, if we represent complex numbers in polar form, $z = re^{i\theta}$ and restrict $\theta$ to $[0, 2\pi)$ then the above definition is equivalent to $log(z) = log(r) + i \theta$. ($r$ is positive real, the function is not defined for $z=0$)
This function can also be expressed as a power series, and it is the obvious generalization of the Taylor series for the usual logarithm function. But, there is a technical complication in doing this, known as branch cuts;
But, one needs to be careful since the exponential of complex numbers is not a one-to-one function. It's a many-to-one function and the inverse is not automatically a well defined map. So, we need to make a choice. (This is similar to the inverse trigonometric functions, where we need to choose a principle value)
The usual convention is to note that, if we represent complex numbers in polar form, $z = re^{i\theta}$ and restrict $\theta$ to $[0, 2\pi)$ then the above definition is equivalent to $log(z) = log(r) + i \theta$. ($r$ is positive real, the function is not defined for $z=0$)
This function can also be expressed as a power series, and it is the obvious generalization of the Taylor series for the usual logarithm function. But, there is a technical complication in doing this, known as branch cuts;