Imo 1988,6

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Imo 1988,6

Unread post by Masum » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:11 pm

My most favourite problem from IMO (though historical).
Prove that if $a,b,\frac{a^2+b^2}{ab+1}=k\in\mathbb N$, then $k$ is a perfect square.
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Re: Imo 1988,6

Unread post by Tahmid Hasan » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:55 am

i have seen the solution to a similar problem.
$\frac{x^2+y^2+1}{xy}=k$ and $k$ is a natural number,then the only value of $k$ is $3$.
hint:let's flip some roots.
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Re: Imo 1988,6

Unread post by mahathir » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:53 pm

I solved it by division.At first,if $k,a,b$ G.C.D is $1$,then, $a=b=k=1$.Again,if they are divisible by any other number,then,if their G.C.D is $d$,then,$k$ will be a number like $d^2*t$.Then,$a=dy$for some positive integer $d$ and $y$ and $b=dz$,for some positive integer $z$.now,we see here,that since G.C.D of $t,y,z$ is $1$,so,$t=z=y=1$.
Thus,$k$ will have to be a perfect square.
(i did not not show the equations,because they are pretty straightforward)

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Re: Imo 1988,6

Unread post by Masum » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:05 pm

mahathir wrote:I solved it by division.At first,if $k,a,b$ G.C.D is $1$,then, $a=b=k=1$
Really? Show with proof.
mahathir wrote: (i did not not show the equations,because they are pretty straightforward)
They aren't straight forward at all.
mahathir wrote:

Also, if $\gcd(t,x,y,z)=1$, who says that $t$ must be $1$?
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Re: Imo 1988,6

Unread post by mahathir » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:41 pm

The equation can be written as $b^2-k=kab-a^2$ and
$a^2-k=kab-b^2$
from this,we understand if $(a,b)=1$ that is they r co-prime,then,we get,
$b^2$ is congruent to $kmoda$
$a^2$ is congruent to $kmodb$
from this,after some steps,we get,$k$ is congruent to $ab mod 1$
so,$k=ab$.but as they are co-prime,so,$b=1$ and $a=1$.so we get,$a=b=k=1$.

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Re: Imo 1988,6

Unread post by Masum » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:18 pm

mahathir wrote: from this,after some steps,we get,$k$ is congruent to $ab mod 1$
so,$k=ab$
From whom did you learn this?
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