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zero :(

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:28 am
by leonardo shawon
im confused.. Amm, whats correct?
real number, R={0,1,2,3,4,5....}
or R={1,2,3,4,5. . . . }

Re: zero :(

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:21 am
by tanvirab
I think you mean "Natural numbers".

Different people use different definitions. It does not really matter, as long as your are consistent in what you use.

I personally, use "positive numbers" or "non-negative numbers" to get rid of the ambiguity. This is the most common convention in modern mathematics.

Re: zero :(

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:12 pm
by leonardo shawon
thank u. But actually my question is, is Zero in Positive Real Number Set?

Re: zero :(

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:13 pm
by leonardo shawon
thanks 4 Natural Number:) i didnt know that.

Re: zero :(

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:33 pm
by Moon
Real number is not only integers (পূর্ণ সংখ্যা).They can be fractions, irrational numbers as well. In generals all the numbers on the real line is real numbers.
Zero is not a positive (or negative) real number. You can include zero with positive reals by considering the set of non negative reals. In the same way zero is in the set of non positive reals.

Re: zero :(

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:51 pm
by leonardo shawon
amm,, then, if f : R - R+
what will i do? Considering Zero as a non negative or Non positive..?

Re: zero :(

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:00 pm
by tanvirab
As Moon said, zero is not positive, not negative.

Re: zero :(

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:32 am
by leonardo shawon
so,, where to put it??
First prove for a>0, then a=0 and then a<0 . . . . . . ?

Re: zero :(

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:36 am
by tanvirab
Not sure what you mean.

Real numbers $> 0$ are positive
Real numbers $< 0$ are negative
$0$ is neither positive nor negative

Re: zero :(

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:41 am
by leonardo shawon
okayy., thank uu:-)