An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
In the triangle $\triangle ABC$, let $AU$ be the angle bisector of the angle $ \angle BAC$ with $U$ lying on the side $BC$.
Prove that,
$AU \leq \frac{1}{2}(AB+AC).$
Prove that,
$AU \leq \frac{1}{2}(AB+AC).$
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
Here's how I got going...
Then where's the equality part??
Where's the problem??
Where's the problem??
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
Step 1: Prove that $AU^2 = bc(1 - \frac{a^2}{(b+c)^2}) $ using Stewart's theorem and ratio theorem of angle bisector. Next substitute $a= x + y, b= y + z, c= z + x$ and find out that
$AU^2 = \frac {4y(x+y)(y+z)(x+y+z)}{(x+2y+z)^2}$. Now $(x + y) + ( y + z) \geq 2 \sqrt{(x+y)(y+z)}$ and
$( x + y + z) + y \geq 2 \sqrt{y(x+y+z)}$
And it will lead you to,
$\frac {b+c}{2} = \frac {x+2y+z}{2} \geq AU$
Stewart's theorem :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart%27s_theorem
$AU^2 = \frac {4y(x+y)(y+z)(x+y+z)}{(x+2y+z)^2}$. Now $(x + y) + ( y + z) \geq 2 \sqrt{(x+y)(y+z)}$ and
$( x + y + z) + y \geq 2 \sqrt{y(x+y+z)}$
And it will lead you to,
$\frac {b+c}{2} = \frac {x+2y+z}{2} \geq AU$
Stewart's theorem :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart%27s_theorem
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
Sourav, please check my solution for any possible mistakes!! :'(
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
I was about to post the same solution Sourav Das posted, so I'd rather not waste my time writing the same solution again.
@Labib:
You said $b^2+c^2>2bc$
But when it's $b=c$?
And Stewert's Theorem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart%27s_theorem
@Labib:
You said $b^2+c^2>2bc$
But when it's $b=c$?
And Stewert's Theorem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart%27s_theorem
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
Mahi...
It was a typing mistake of mine...
I've edited it...
Now... If you could re-check...
It was a typing mistake of mine...
I've edited it...
Now... If you could re-check...
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
Shit! I should have seen this earlier! The equality case never occurs other than degenerate cases, that's why you never found that part. I'm using Sourav's solution for this fact.
Again then in your solution, $4mn$ will be $0$, so the equality will hold...$\text{sigh}$
But the equality part will only hold if and only if $(x + y) + ( y + z) = 2 \sqrt{(x+y)(y+z)}$ and $( x + y + z) + y = 2 \sqrt{y(x+y+z)}$ happens together, that is both $x + y= y + z$ and $ x + y + z= y$ happens together, i.e. the degenerate case, and so ,that solves it, doesn't it?sourav das wrote:Step 1: Prove that $AU^2 = bc(1 - \frac{a^2}{(b+c)^2}) $ using Stewart's theorem and ratio theorem of angle bisector. Next substitute $a= x + y, b= y + z, c= z + x$ and find out that
$AU^2 = \frac {4y(x+y)(y+z)(x+y+z)}{(x+2y+z)^2}$. Now $(x + y) + ( y + z) \geq 2 \sqrt{(x+y)(y+z)}$ and
$( x + y + z) + y \geq 2 \sqrt{y(x+y+z)}$
And it will lead you to,
$\frac {b+c}{2} = \frac {x+2y+z}{2} \geq AU$
Again then in your solution, $4mn$ will be $0$, so the equality will hold...$\text{sigh}$
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
Now, the only problem is that the original problem was:
2AU>= AB+BC.
What modification is needed to solve this?
2AU>= AB+BC.
What modification is needed to solve this?
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Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
Now, the only problem is that the original problem was:
2AU>= AB+BC.
What modification is needed to solve this?
2AU>= AB+BC.
What modification is needed to solve this?
Re: An Angle Bisector and the two sides...
WTH ?! $AU \geq \frac 1 2 (AB+BC)??$ It's not possible.
Try the simplest counter-example, a isosceles triangle.
Try the simplest counter-example, a isosceles triangle.
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