triangle in a square has area less than 1/2
triangle in a square has area less than 1/2
Take a square of length $n$ and choose $(n+1)^2$ points inside the square. Prove that, you can choose some $3$ points so that the triangle made by them has an area at most $\dfrac12$.
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Re: triangle in a square has area less than 1/2
I think $(n+1)^2$ is more than sufficient, we just need $n^2+1$.
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Re: triangle in a square has area less than 1/2
It is a nice problem.
Sketch of solution:
Take the convex hull of points . Denote it by H.Apparently,the hull has area at most n^2 and perimeter 4n.Now suppose that hull has k points on its boundary. So definitely n^2+2n+1k points in the interior of the hull.Now triangulate the hull .This use exactly 2 (n^2+2n)k triangles. So one has area at most n^2/{2 (n^2+2n)k} .Next there must exist 2 consecutive edges such that if side length r a,b then a+b/2 <= 4n/k
So this triangle will have area at most 8n^2/k^2
SO some triangle will have area at most minimum of the above mentioned 2 triangles. The first one is increasing wrt k while the 2nd one is decreasing.So that area will be maximized when both will be equal.Then k=4n
The rest is just calculation
Last edited by SN.Pushpita on Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:39 am, edited 3 times in total.

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Re: triangle in a square has area less than 1/2
Silly me.Couldn't latex for shortage of time :"(
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Re: triangle in a square has area less than 1/2
I didn't uderstand the first line of the skectch of solution.SN.Pushpita wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:59 pmIt is a nice problem.
Sketch of solution:
Take the convex hull of points H. Apparently,the hull has area at most n^2 and perimeter 4n.Now suppose that hull has k points on its boundary .Now triangulate the hull .This use exactly 2 (n^2+2n)k triangles. So one has area at most n^2/{2 (n^2+2n)k} .Next there must exist 2 consecutive edges such that if side length r a,b then a+b/2 <= 4n/k
So this triangle will have area at most 8n^2/k^2
SO some triangle will have area at most minimum of the above mentioned 2 triangles. The first one is increasing wrt k while the 2nd one is decreasing.So that area will be maximized when both will be equal.Then k=4n
The rest is just calculation

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Re: triangle in a square has area less than 1/2
Well ,read about convex hull then. I have also edited some lines to increase understability .samiul_samin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:27 pmI didn't uderstand the first line of the skectch of solution.SN.Pushpita wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:59 pmIt is a nice problem.
Sketch of solution:
Take the convex hull of points H. Apparently,the hull has area at most n^2 and perimeter 4n.Now suppose that hull has k points on its boundary .Now triangulate the hull .This use exactly 2 (n^2+2n)k triangles. So one has area at most n^2/{2 (n^2+2n)k} .Next there must exist 2 consecutive edges such that if side length r a,b then a+b/2 <= 4n/k
So this triangle will have area at most 8n^2/k^2
SO some triangle will have area at most minimum of the above mentioned 2 triangles. The first one is increasing wrt k while the 2nd one is decreasing.So that area will be maximized when both will be equal.Then k=4n
The rest is just calculation